BARACK OBAMA- WARNING

I can understand your argument. However, as written in his books, Obama argument hold to be creditable. The comments spoken by Rev Wright caused many to feel that racism was the root cause of this type of sermon. However the comments and actions that Obama felt about Whites mirrors your comment on how you feel about Blacks. All human beings have these feelings. However, when one race speaks out about the other, we categorize them as raciest. Please do not take offence, I am not calling you a raciest.

To help you understand my point, recently Feb 2008, I attended a church in Lake Wylie SC. A guest speaker had return to speak at this church. After sitting through this message about 10 minutes my family and I literally had to run out of this church due to fear. Attending this service were my daughters teachers, my mechanic, and neighbors within my community in which all were white and members of this church. These are individuals I have high regards for. Nevertheless, after hearing the cruel remarks made by the invited speaker regarding the African Americans, Islamic Community, Democratic Party, etc. should I hold all 1000+ members accountable for one mans remarks? Or what about the radio anchor Rush Limbaugh. This man states he speaks on behalf of conservative republicans. Should I deem all republicans to be of same mind as their self appointed spokesperson?

I assure you can provide me with examples of racism, unjust situations, and ignorance in which you have also seen. However, the only point we would making are people are bigots, raciest, evil, etc...

I feel that issues in which affect ones' life brings about different perspectives. I do not feel Obama nor Wright are raciest. On the contrary, were Wrights comments stupid? Maybe so. Was he thinking as a Minister speaking the word of God. No he was not. He allowed emotions to get in the way. Nevertheless, what he said, are only words. Actions speak louder than words, so until we as a nation begin to execute our actions in more positive ways for all cultures, it will always be a ping pong effect of verbal assault in which diminish our society.

Are you sure your not working for the Rudy Gulliani campaign? Fear, smear and 9-11. So 19 religious fundamentalists fly planes into WTC? Does that mean we are supposed to hate all Muslims? Tim McVeigh was behind the Oklahoma City Bombing - should we hate all Christians?

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

And I am afraid we could report "churches" all day long and nothing would be done to any of them because they feel they have some type of ordination to save us all from ourselves.

There are people, I am afraid, that just don't want to see the connection between McViegh's act of terrorism and that of the 911 terrorists. What is the difference? None to me. Both acts were cowardly acts of desparate men. Both took innocent lives of the already born. The same people who ignore McVeighs connection to Christianity hoisted the pro life banner when Rudolph killed a few already born in the name of Jesus...

But hey, no one wants to mention that both McVeigh and Rudolph felt justified because thy had Jesus on their side...no they only want to demonize every Muslim they can find.

And sadly, Boosh and Co. has empowered the idiots amongst us....I truly fear for Obama's life and Hillary's too, for that matter.

Maybe we should take Shaw's advice and start drinking?

I truly fear for Obama's life

All 3 posts listed by Cyberella have been beat to death. The links are nothing but spam and propaganda. Give it a rest already cyberella - don't you have someplace else to scream "the sky is falling".

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

And guess what, this crap is being preached in church. That is where the CHILD in my daughters class learned it. This child absolutely insisted that Obama was really "all black" and a Muslim and would not touch the "holy bible" because he was afraid of it.

Now I wonder, who do you think is spreading this crap?

I went to the rally at Winthrop and stood in front of a couple of "young republican frat boys" (their self description, not mine.) Well lo and behold, the two young fellows and their female companion vanish about half way through obams's speech. I just happened to have to use the rest room and the place was plastered with the same crap.

"Please read" was scribbled on the top. I want them to know I personally tore down every last one I could find and gave them to the Secret Service guy.

When churches start spreading lies then Jesus' warning to beware of false prophets takes on a whole new meaning.

Probably another vast right-wing conspiracy, huh?

What evidence of anything do you have? You've got a girl friend of enlighten's daughter who is most probably repeating what she has heard her parents say.

Many churches, my own included, have done studies of other religions - including Islam and the difference between Islam and radical Islam. No harm there.

Now, the church cannot control an individual who sees Obama's Muslim past and heritage and questions whether or not Obama has honestly renounced Islam in favor of Christianity. Personally, I take Obama at his word that he has. There are enough reasons for me to not vote for the man that religion doesn't even need to be considered.

For you and freethought to use the actions of a few nutcases to try and convict the entire Christian religion is typical. Where is your IRS outrage over the ACLU, MoveOn.Org and others. These liberal bastions enjoy the same tax exempt status and are way more out in front of pursuing their political agenda than any church could hope for.

What say you to that? Is there any intellectual honesty left on the liberal side to say these organizations should have their tax status revoked? Probably not because a good liberal doesn't let hypocrisy stand in the way of the cause.

By the way, what purpose did you think handing over brochures to the secret service was going to do. Was there a threat made to Obama? Was there any violation of Federal law? I could understand turning them over to Campus police as I am sure the University has rules related to where such things can be posted.

Other than that, the students were exercising their freedoms. But again, you only support people who believe your way to exercise those freedoms.

that shows the difference between Christianity and "radical" Christianity.

I can't add much to Free's argument...which I whole-heartedly agree with other than to say that I see no hipocracy in my statement or actions at all.

Would I have been allowed into a Bush/Cheney speech? Heck no because after I was searched they would have presented me with an "oath of support," and I would not have signed it and been escorted out of the building. I had this happen to a friend. What about the guy in Columbia still going through a bunch of legal crap because he had the "nerve" to critisize de president to be? Hypocrisy?

The little frat boys went to the event with the sole purpose of spreading lies. It seems many churches, instead of preaching the Gospel of their lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, have chosen instead to use their pulpit to dabble in the workings of man. What ever happened to church being a place where one went for Spiritual food?

I did not, nor do I attack Christianity as a whole...I happened to love the work and words of Jesus...I just happen to have more than one issue with his followers.

I have to give you credit though, you are getting good at defending the un-defendable.

Impeachment would be too good for Boosh and Cheney.

Now I am off to Charlotte for a full body massage, which I hope is not delayed by the immense amount of traffic I am sure to encounter as the public rushes to hear Cheney and Sharpton speak today. Let us Pray.

Hood,

I was not convicting the christian religion of anything. If a church takes the position to sway their followers on political / legislative issues then they should have their tax exempt status revoked. America has a separation of church and state. If a church attempts to sway voters - they should be taxed and fined.

The ACLU has no political affiliation. If it was a "liberal bastion" then why did they file a motion to keep Rush "hillbilly heroin hypocrite" Limbaugh's medical files confidential? If anything, they could have easily kept out of the case. Yet, they saw his rights being violated and stepped in.

Moveon.org is a 501(c)(4) nonprofit organization. According to IRS publication 557 (chapter 4 entitled "Other Section 501(c) Organizations"):

Political activity. Promoting social welfare does not include direct or indirect participation or intervention in political campaigns on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. However, if you submit proof that your organization is organized exclusively to promote social welfare, it may still obtain exemption even if it participates legally in some political activity on behalf of or in opposition to candidates for public office. See the discussion in chapter 2 under Political Organization Income Tax Return.

Churches on the otherhand operate under the non-profit exemption of 501(c)(3) which is strictly prohibited from any political influences. Don't take my word for it though, check our IRS document FS-2006-17 entitled "Election Year Activities and the Prohibition on Political Campaign Intervention for Section 501(c)(3) Organizations". Particularly the following section:

The Prohibition on Political Campaign Intervention

Under the Internal Revenue Code, all section 501(c)(3) organizations are absolutely prohibited from directly or indirectly participating in, or intervening in, any political campaign on behalf of (or in opposition to) any candidate for elective public office. The prohibition applies to all campaigns including campaigns at the federal, state and local level. Violation of this prohibition may result in denial or revocation of tax-exempt status and the imposition of certain excise taxes. Those section 501(c)(3) organizations that are private foundations are subject to additional restrictions that are not described in this fact sheet.

Ah, but once again - here is a liberal just following the IRS tax code. Not hypocrisy, just following the letter of the law (something the conservative side of the isle cant seem to understand).

The liberal side of the isle still holds true to intellectual honesty. After all, liberals didn't lie to get the country to go to war, or plunge the country into a recession.

Personally, I can't wait to see churches get fined for violations. Religion and politics don't mix. Its that simple. Prayer at town meetings, Prayer in school all that crap should not be allowed when non-theist taxpayers are fitting the bill for government organizations. If churches push their positions around, I say fine em, close em, bulldoze them into the ground and put up some low cost housing. Just keep the hocus pocus out of politics!!!

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

If that was the case, then those churches could be up for some IRS violations. What church was it? I would gladly turn them in...

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

Google "Freedom's Enemies, Barack Hussein Obama" by Beckwith.
Google "Veteran's dispatch, who is Barack Obama"
This man has a long history of Islam.
His father, stepfather and grandfather were Muslims.
His relatives in Africa are Muslims. (check up on his cousin who is a radical, re; church burning)
He has told us in his books of his love of Islam and his hatred of the white race.
His biggest backers are radicals such as Louis farrakran, Jerimiah Wright and Tony Rizko.
This man is counting on riding the insane PC/White Guilt card all the way into the White House.
Don't be fooled by empty retoric.

He hates half of himself? He is half white/christian you know...doesn't that make him at least half right?

What a bunch of hooey...the man is as American as you or I or do you and I have different definitions of what being an American is?

could be...

in my other posts.

As I posted in another thread, the author of those articles is a typical Right Wing spin artist. For your education, I have reposted my previous post here:

Having read these articles, I started smelling the foul stench of right wing BS slinging. Sure enough, after a quick google search of the article's author, I knew it was nothing more than Right Wing propaganda.

Here is a few facts regarding Bill Sammon:

He writes for the Washington Examiner, and is a frequent contributor and political analyst on Fox News (sure, no Bias there)

Wrote several Neo-Con based books such as "Misunderestimated: The President Battles Terrorism, John Kerry, and the Bush Haters" in which Rush Limbaugh called
"It is an excellent book...far beyond any book yet written about the Bush administration." and Matt Drudge said
"Bush 43 rarely talks about Bush 41. So it's really pretty astonishing that he did so with Bill Sammon."

Also, Sammons spends the majority of his time joined at Bush's hip. Bush even has a cute little nick name for his demonic little spinster "Superstretch".

Sammons is yet another Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity wanna be. He puts out these little hit pieces to get the neocon venom going.

Obviously, the Reich Wing is starting to get a little freaked out about Obama. This could be a good sign.

Obama is a much better candidate than anyone on the Republican ticket. Huckabee wants to make the constitution a more "christian" document!! How disgusting is that!! Throw Seperation of Church and State out the window. Its insanity - talk about a religious terrorist!

The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

Most of my post and sources were deleted (while others posts remain. Obama has the money behind him to avoid being exposed)
But by what remains, I urge anyone to go to these sites and judge for yourselves. Any intelligent person can see that the telling material comes from his own books and speeches- and so it is the truth. The truth comes out in his books about his disdain for the white race and his admiration for Islam. His pandering the illegal aliens comes out in his speeche (go to YouTube, type in 'Obama, La Raza- hear him in his own words) His support of the heinous practice of partial birth abortion is well documented.

Cyberella, are you on Booshes payroll? Geeze Louise, what's next?

How can he hate the white race when he is himself, half white and raised by white grandparents?

Of course his supposed self hatred might lead to partial birth abortion...

You are beginning to sound like a broken record and no one with a partially aborted brain will believe you anyway...save your preaching for church...they like fear based thought.

Yes, there is a secret conspiracy against you to keep you from posting inaccurate information. We phoned the Obama tipline, gave them all our membership numbers (engraved into our secret decoder rings) and the jumped into action, removing your posts.

Come on, did you read any of my previous post. Stop buying into the Republican spin.

I have to go drink the blood of a goat that looks like dubya now. Its going to be alot of fun, the rest of the secret society is meeting me there. We are going to play twister, pin the pitchfork on cheney and bob for apples. Its going to be a hoot.

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Cheney sure did scream! What a sissy!

Hey Free, are you the acting president or can you be ousted? I hope you are only letting Yankee Liberals in as those midwestern liberals are so fake...LOL

Have a great day Free, let's face it, the house of cards is falling and sooner or later "they" will concede defeat and tuck their tails and run like the yellow dogs that they are.

peace out!

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want Barack Hussein obama for president of the United States.

That's a disgusting tactic to use the deaths of te innocent victims of 9/11 in a smear campaign about Barrack Obama. You should be ashamed. There is absolutely nothing to connect this man to anything remtely connected to 9/11 other than your fear mongering and slander. Obama is an American, a good American in my view, and what you're trying to do says a whole lotmore about you and people who think like you do than it does him. My guess is that it will backfire badly. The Clintons tried to play the race card and we see how that turned out in South Carolina. If you cn't beat the man on what he stands for and his voting record, have the decency not to start making up filthy lies about him.

And by the way, it's not research if all you do is a Gogle search. That's just you finding other peoples lies and BS. And just because it's on the Internet does not make it a fact. If you are truly a teacher, I hope and pray to God that my kids never go to the same school district that you tech in.

to yankees. We actually knew people who were there, who lost loved ones. I don't need you to tell me that we (America) were attacked that day but that does not mean that all Islamics are to blame.

Remember this one fact: MOST OF THE ATTACKERS WERE SAUDI ARABIAN just like Osama Bin Laden, not Iranian, Iraqi, or Palistinian.

Even Rudy G. can't keep using 911 and expect any support so stop trying.

(are you in some fashion related to Boosh?)

Ok, so you are basically saying that all Muslims are to blame for 9-11? How about saying all religious extremists? That would be much better suited. I could even agree with that.

Basically, you are spewing fear. You need to get over yourself and stop thinking that all Muslims want to kill all Americans. If you read the Koran, it is just as bloody and sick as the Christian bible.

Get over yourself.

Obama has my vote, because he is the only guy with karisma (sp?). Who else do you want to vote for? Huckabee? He is another religious extremist. He actually wants to change the constitution into a religious document - talk about treason!!
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. — George Bernard Shaw

AND THEN COME BACK AND TELL ME YOU STILL WANT BARACK OBAMA FOR YOUR PRESIDENT.

THIS VIDEO SHOULD BE REQUIRED VIEWING FOR AMERICANS

http://www.frugalsites.net/911/attack/

More 911 conspiracy garbage? Should I get my tinfoil hat?

"Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum."
~ Lucretius, De Rerum Natura

I think Obama's associations have more to do with a concern for his lack of "blackness". He needed more cred with mainstream blacks, because of his heritage, and tried to divorce himself from his whiteness. It was calculated, not passionate, but may backfire on him. I don't agree with the hysteria from some conservatives, which will most definitely backfire on them.