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Airport Expansion Plans

Any expected benefits of the runway and facility expansion should be weighed against the impact on the surrounding environment, which includes the citizens living nearby, not just the birds, snakes and lizards. I could find no facts in the Mar 16 "Our View" piece supporting the assertion made either in the headline ("Airport extension vital ...") or in the text's statement that "... expansion ... is a key to business growth in the county." Who says, and on what basis? Aside from the developers and a couple of vendors at the airport, we're certainly not going to benefit much from those larger corporate jets bringing exec's who're heading up to Charlotte. What credible studies have been done to link business growth in York County to a lengthened runway facility? Perhaps the assertions are correct, but if the citizens are to support this expansion, they're going to have to be persuaded by facts, not mere assertions. If there are quantifiable benefits, how do they balance with the negative impact on the nearby citizens and property owners? Has a formal environmental impact study been performed? None was mentioned. Is it not required by federal regulations before such a project can be approved? If one has been done, did it examine the effects on the citizens near the airport and not just the air, trees and "critters"? The officials were right in halting this project until more dialogue with the airport's neighbors can be held. One hopes that dialogue will include a factual rationale for the proposed expansion.

AOD and Expansion was already a "Done Deal"

No matter what anyone tells you, the airport expansion plans and the Airport Overlay District was already agreed upon before the first meeting at the Nature Museum was even organized. Whatever the Rock Hill City Council wants, they get, no matter who they step on in the course. I have personally had problems with them in the past and know this to be a fact. They will lie, cheat, whatever it takes to get their way, just as a little child would do. I hope and pray that everyone who got out and worked to keep it off the agenda will be rewarded in one way or another. I also hope and pray that every one of the Planning Commission members and the Rock Hill City Council will have nothing but bad luck for the rest of their lives. Maybe they will find out that some of the Thermalkem poison underneath the ground has somehow seeped into their areas where they live and in the long run, they won't be able to sell their properties and will be stuck with something they don't want and can't do anything about it. Sorry to everyone who did come to all of the meetings and try so hard, especially Scott Ball, but as I said, it was already a "DONE DEAL" from the beginning. Think about it!

PLANE CRASH ON S.C. RT. 302

It’s always tragic when an accident causes loss of life and injuries. If only these poor people had knowledge of, or knew of the Rock Hill York County Airport this tragedy might not have occurred. Our City and County Leaders seem to dismiss an occurrence of a crash happening at RHYC Airport as being so remote that it’s not even considered in any decision regarding the expansion of the Airport to accept ever more Jet traffic. So if they’re right, a crash would never happen at our little Airport. Most plane crashes occur on take-off or landing, and could result in a horrific tragedy involving nearby homes or schools. If a tragedy happens in the future involving RHYC Airport, I can only hope it befalls on the Politicians who are making the stupid decision to expand the Airport in a residential and School zone. Let them reap what they sow.

Enlighten's picture

I could have told you that

and I believe I did. I also suggested a long time ago that you all get your money together and hire that lawyer. I really did feel for you all as I have been in the same place.

I have had lie after lie told to me. Deed restrictions ignored, property lines moved then moved again. Took a good out of town lawyer and a bucket of money to defeat the Done Deal near my house but it can be done.

This airport expansion is yet another short sighted money grab by the city of rock hill. Why they believe that this growth is going to continue is a mystery to me.

Get a LAWYER because you all can protest, go to meetings, cry, bitch, moan, and complain but like you said, it was a done deal way before the public ever caught wind of it.

Good Luck

Biased and foolish

August 21, 2008

Dear Editor,

I am taking issue with your biased reporting on the AOD and Airport Expansion plans. The impression I get from your published articles, which refer to the AOD, is that it’s a great piece of legislation, good for all the people in Rock Hill and especially good for the people who live close to the Airport. That type of reporting is completely one sided. The truth is that the proposed AOD ordinance places all of the restrictions on the residential property owners and none on the Airport, which is the non-conforming use in a Residential Zone. A government for the people, would be trying to put operating restrictions on an expanding nuisance in a Residential Zone. Now don’t get me wrong, I feel that most everyone in the area is okay co-existing with the Airport as it operates now. The homeowners object to a runway extension and expanded Airport operations that the government says will greatly increase Jet Plane Traffic. Increased Jet Plane Traffic will have negative effects on HEALTH, SAFETY, HOME VALUATIONS and QUALITY OF LIFE. The Government is well aware of these facts, judging from the wording in the AOD ordinance and the restrictions placed on land usage in the proposed AOD. They are afraid and worried for the residents’ welfare and safety, but they are willing to GAMBLE on the people’s well being for UNRESEARCHED reasons that don’t make for common sense.

If City and County officials, after doing extensive RESEARCH, still believe that a Large Commercial Airport is beneficial to Rock Hill and York County and would be self-supporting, then by all means build one. Build it in an area where there are miles of unpopulated land around the site, and Zone it correctly so that it remains unpopulated. STOP THE INSANITY of building on a series of mistakes and poor planning.

And finally Dear Editor, please try to report on all sides of an issue, and stop being an extension of the City and County government.

Thank you for any consideration

Magster

PS. What sense are Commissioner Peeples and Councilman Curwood Chappell making with their statements? It’s like talking about the price of eggs after you’ve killed the hen. Make sense? No!

Where is the money for all the spending by Rock Hill coming from

$624,000, $6,000,000 and soon, $14,000,000 for an airport runway expansion. I just don't understand it. Is Rock Hill hiding some money trees and if they are, we all need to be out looking for them so we can get our share of all the money they are spending. You know that most of it will come from tax dollars, you just don't want to admit it.
The public meetings that have been had are over except the last one in September by the City Council where they will approve the Planning Commission's OK. Just wait. Soon they will all be sorry that they approved something so dangerous, without realizing it, as the airplanes will be taking off and landing and the two schools are within several miles away.
There was an airplane crash in Spain today on take-off and 150 lives were lost as a result of the crash and burn. Let us all pray that our children in these nearby schools and everyone on the ground will not be in the way of any of these airplanes that may crash on take-off or landing.
At least we who were against the AOD and expansion can live our lives not feeling the guilt that these people who vote for it will. Rest in Peace. Think about it!

AOD and Expansion Plans are changed

Since the last meeting on Thursday, July 31, there seems to be a lot of changes that have been made to the AOD and the future expansion of the runway. I wonder why. Does anyone have any explanations as to why the AOD has been almost cut in half?? If they could have done this from the beginning maybe there wouldn't have been so much stress placed on the 1800 to 2000 people who live in the Airport zones which have also been changed. I don't know who came up with these changes but if I were you, I would ask the FAA if they accept any or all of your changes before you apply for another grant of Federal monies to cover your expansion.

Great Scott

Hey Scott, I can feel your frustration in the letter you wrote. Wish I could help more. I hope you realize that part of the professional politicians bag of tricks is to wear down their opponents by dragging out decision making votes and postponing meetings or rescheduling them. They have the time to lollygag regarding the AOD since they are already being paid to attend the meetings no matter what is discussed. The longer it takes, the less people will be involved on the citizens side. They have done this before or they're getting advice from other professional pols who have run roughshod over the residents and the best interests of the citizens.
You're absolutely right about the elected politicians reasons for downsizing the AOD and changing the wording in the Ordinance. The smaller the AOD zone and the more ambiguous the language in the Ordinance, the easier it will be to pass. It will also be much easier to modify and enlarge in the future, with less opposition and the fact that it is already established. I believe that the elected officials, and the powers behind them, had their minds and hearts set on this proposed Airport expansion years ago. All the facts presented to them, by the NoAOD and other opponents, fell on dull minds and hardened hearts. If Buddy Motz had been defeated in the primaries, the story might have been different. If the council had drafted some restrictions on the operation of the Airport, such as curfews or noise pollution it might have been different. The November elections might offer an opportunity for change at the local level. I hope that you and the other folks at NoAOD are considering a lawsuit to counter the AOD zoning and Ordinance. Changing the zoning in the area, without giving equal weight in the decision making process to the residents, should be unlawful. The Airport should be considered an illegal and dangerous nuisance in a residential zone and not allowed to expand. This whole conflict has been one sided from the beginning, with our elected politicians on the side of the Airport. The Airport is creating a lot of problems for the peaceful residents of the area. The City should be finding the Airport at fault and reducing or limiting its use. If the City really needs a larger Airport, let them build it somewhere else, and they can charge the people who use it to pay for it.
By the way, has anyone discovered any evidence that the Airport may be used by an outfit like UPS or DHL or any package delivery service? Could they be trying to sneak in a heavy user without alerting the public. The folks in Tega Cay and Lake Wylie and Meadow Lakes could be having a lot of Jet traffic over their heads in the future. I hope they have been alerted.
Great job Scott.

Enlighten's picture

Great Idea

In the letter today. Why oh Why don't our elected officials see that expanding the airport is NOT the way to go. Over and over again we have seen the wealthy abandon city centers only to come back when transportation costs rise. Gas is NOT going down, so what does our esteemed politicos do? They try to force an airport expansion down the throats of the the people who will, utimately, pay for it.

The airport has cost us taxpayers for YEARS and we have the power to vote these fools out of office. Remember, these are the same people who approved a subdivision in the middle of nowhere, builds roads for developers and then "decorates" and improves the common areas with YOUR MONEY.

When is enough going to be enough for the voting public? Got me but I sure would vote for ANYONE who would take that airport money and put it towards:

1. Expanding the light rail to Rock Hill/Fort Mill/Lake Wylie.

2. BIKE LANES, real ones, not just take the money and run or pave two feet on the side of the road and slap up a share the road sign.

3. Put apartments and Condos above all downtown buildings and start making efforts towards establishing a viable downtown in rock kill. What don't they get about "No body is home so no body comes to visit?" If people don't live downtown, no one is around and it looks and is desolate.

Those three ideas alone, if implemented would benefit more than the few who stand to benefit from any airport expansion.

And you are more than correct about the city being more than willing to run roughshod over anyone who tries to get in their way but they CAN be beat. My friends and I are living proof. But please be aware that they are not above doing things that are less than ethical and/or legal to get their way. Before this ever came into the public eye, I can assure you it was a "done deal."

Keep fighting!

Airport Safety

Why is safety important for the City and not the residents?

The City and County keep stating that this Overlay District is a zoning overlay that is designed for safety concerns. The safety of the pilots/operators that use the airport and the residents that live around the airport, I am not sure this is an accurate statement but it is what the City and County are saying the AOD is for.

Let’s look at this issue and restrictions of the AOD:
• Radio and Television Broadcasting Studios; Wireless Communication Towers except as authorized by the Federal Aviation Administration
• Above?ground storage of explosive, hazardous, flammable, or combustible materials, and related facilities or operations that could pose a threat to the welfare of the public in the event of an aircraft crash or other mishap
• Petroleum refining and other related uses that may be susceptible to explosion or fire
• Landfills and incinerators
• Outdoor storage of minerals, coal, ores, oxides, produce, furniture, building supplies, junk or salvage yards
• Wildlife sanctuaries or refuges
• Building restrictions for new construction to better sound proof NEW homes
• Space restrictions for the number of people per acre to limit density of homes

How does any of this protect me as a home owner in the City? I cannot do any of the above in the City limits now with out the permission of the City. What protections does this afford me?

It does not address my insulation, the density of my neighborhood that is already built out or afford me any protections for noise, aircraft flight operations or activities that can and will happen 24 hours per day.

It does not provide protection for the schools, hospitals, daycares or nursing homes that all operate within 2 miles of this airport.

California, Utah and Minnesota have all established airport protection acts and zoning policies that diminish exposure for schools, daycares, hospitals and homes. They have implemented at least a 6000 foot protection zone around airports in order to minimize this exposure to noise and aircraft. This zone was established by the National Transportation and Safety Board.

The National Transportation and Safety Board has stated that 50% of all aircraft accidents and crashes happen within 5 miles of an airport and the closer you get to the runway the higher the probability that a crash can occur.

We currently have 3 schools and a hospital that are within 6000 feet of the runway. We have 6 more schools that are with in 2.5 miles of the runway. Not to mention the countless daycares, nursing homes and houses within 6000 feet of the runway. The states listed above established this safety zone so in the event of an emergency the pilot will have open space to land the plane without injuring those on the ground and possibly save his aircraft and life. The City did not take this into consideration when developing around this airport. Densely populated housing developments are everywhere. The overlay district that they are proposing was developed to establish open space and restrict development. Too little too late and now it will only aid the City in receiving funding in order to expand an airport that does not need to grow, does not have the numbers to qualify for the federal funding and will only server to damage the residents that live around this airport with the potential impact of many jet aircraft coming in at all hours of the day and night.

Noise is one of the many factors for all of these schools and residents. No one has ever or will ever say we are going to have planes falling out of the sky and killing our kids. But we will have jets flying over the schools disrupting class. The longer the runway the more jets we will have coming over the schools and the larger the jets will be.

We must have concern for the safety of the residents, schools, daycares, hospital, and nursing homes that are in close proximity to this airport.

Safety has been discussed by the City and County time and time again. Why is it when the Citizens ask that if you are to implement the Overlay District why are you not putting in safety restrictions on the airport operations in order to protect those on the ground from noise and hazards? Why are you not putting in assistance for noise protection inside the safety zone? Why does the City and County get to use the word safety but not the residents?

Scott Ball
NoAOD.com
Rock Hill, SC

More on the Airport

Airport Double Talk:

The City and County want all of us to believe that we will only have the same type of aircraft on a day to day operational basis. That nothing larger will use this airport because of the 60,000 lb weight restriction. That is not an accurate statement. The FAA has a provision (AC-150/5320?6D) that will account for much larger aircraft being able to use this airport, up to and including aircraft weighing over 90,000 lbs. Once the City and County accept the grant funding they become beholden to the FAA and the FAA will dictate all aspects of operations including weight based access and hours of operation.

The City wants us to believe that we will not have additional aircraft coming into our airport right away once the expansion is complete. Mr. Ramsdell (Airport Administrator) stated on a local radio show that we will not see an influx of aircraft once the runway is extended. I don’t feel this is an accurate statement either.

The Stage length is the amount of space an aircraft needs to land or take off. During bad weather or hot days that distance gets longer. Manufactures set the stage lengths for all aircraft but some corporation set artificial numbers that exceed that of the manufacture in order to account for safety. Mr. Ramsdell confirmed this on the radio and stated that these aircraft will be able to use this runway once we have it lengthened. He also stated that they will take this type of aircraft into account when submitting for funding. Mr. Ramsdell, are we to believe you when you state we will not have an influx of aircraft to our airport once the runway is completed but at the same time you are counting these additional aircraft (that can’t use this runway currently due to self imposed stage lengths) in order to qualify for funding? How does this work? By your own admission you are using this type of aircraft to potentially qualify your operations for funding and therefore you are telling the FAA and South Carolina Department of Aviation that you will have that many additional aircraft coming into our airport once the extension is complete. Again, how does this work?

Someone needs to explain to me how an airport that is not maxed out in its operations, does not sustain itself, and has had 10’s of millions of dollars in upgrades to entice business, yet lacks the operational numbers to qualify for more improvements; needs to grow?

It would appear that Mr. Smith (City Manager) and Mr. Ramsdell appearing on the local radio show was to answer all of our questions and calm our concerns. It has only aided in generating more questions and concerns about why the City is determined to grow this airport!

Scott Ball
NoAOD.com
Rock Hill, SC

Airport Expansion

The airport is as large as it needs to be right now. The City and County allowed all of the building around the small airport and tried to enlarge it. Now, it seems that they are stuck with an airport they want to enlarge and there is no where for them to go. They have made so many errors from the very beginning, in the early 1990's, that I really doubt that they will ever be able to obtain another grant; however, I could be wrong. I hope not. I think the residents who live around the airport and in the zones 2 and 3 should not forget what is still going on and keep the NOAOD website going with more input in the media and on the website. It is going to take so many complaints
from the neighbors of the airport to make a mark on the FAA. So, get out there and complain about anything that is not right, such as low flying airplanes, too much noise, too many smelly fumes from the jets as they sit on the runway and rev up the engines, the landings and take offs during the time that the airport itself is officially closed. I heard one take off so loud during the night last week that it literally awakened me from my sleep and frightened me also. Call the FSDO in Columbia, write the FAA Aviation Noise Ombudsman, call the 1-866-TELLFAA, and if any of these people are rude to you, call the FAA at
1-202-267-3404, and let them know that you were treated unfairly or unprofessionally by one of their own. There are numerous things we can do to stop this airport from getting another grant and if everyone would do their job and not just tell someone who lives in their neighborhood what happened yesterday, but tell the FAA or their counterparts in Atlanta or Columbia, we can stop this expansion. We just have to stick together. Think about it!

You know it'ts there.. and RH is growing.

KEY! DON'T MOVE NEAR AN AIRPORT... DUH.. THATS WHY THE LAND WAS SO CHEAP. cry cry cry.. get over it.

YOU KNOW IT'S THERE.

Duh, this is why we have the problems we have today. People like you that haven't a clue as to what is going on.
You have no understanding as to what the real issues are nor do you realize what the costs will be to all the citizens of Rock Hill, both monetary and otherwise.

Wake up cdhowell and do a little research before you make a comment that is equivelant to that of a five year old.

One other point, don't suggest that someone's land is cheap when you have no idea as to the value.

cdhowell

When we moved into the area - there was no AOD. Everyone said "It's just a little recreational airport thats been there for 50+ years.
Our politicians - fully knowing that they wanted to expand the airport (known for more than 10 years) - these politicians allowed, yes allowed, residential construction, school construction and entire communities to be built in what they KNEW WERE IN VIOATION OF THEIR OWN MASTER PLAN. You say DUH, I reckon that's the extent of your knowledge. Do a little research before you comment on the airport. Oh yeh, I almost forgot, I bet I paid more for my "Cheap Property" than you did and when ALL OF YORK COUNTIES RESIDENTS PAY HIGHER TAXES TO SUPPORT AN AIRPORT THAT HAS NOT MADE A PROFIT - EVER - PRESENTLY THIS AIRPORT IS SUPPORTED BY $250,000.00 PLUS OF TAXPAYERS MONEY. So DUH to you and your attitude.

You are right that they knew they made a big mistake

In regard to the message submitted by CDHOWELL on 6/17, I agree that the airport itself should still be a recreational airport as it was 50 years ago. The City/County have allowed all of the growth around the airport so they now have no where to grow except North and the schools and museum are there so why do they want to even get any larger? I don't think that with all of the problems with the residents around the airport, they will ever have peace even if they get another Airport Improvement Grant and enlarge the runway to the North where they do own land they obtained through Eminent Domain in 1996, I believe, with a Federal Aviation Administration grant of over 14 million dollars. I really don't think that they will be able to obtain a grant the way the airports are having so much trouble right now but if they do, I feel that everyone involved in the AOD that will pass in August, because they already know they are going to, should have their attorneys ready to file lawsuits against the City/County for "takings" and endangerment to lives, ours to be exact and our children's who will be inside the schools that are in the paths of these airplanes. Everyone stick together on this, please, and just sit down and Think about it!

Why have my comments been removed

I have written several comments regarding the City of Rock Hill/York County Airport and I will say that they haven't been very nice, but I thought that was what this was for, to express your feelings, good or bad. I noticed that my comments were listed here for a few weeks and then they disappeared just like my letter that I wrote to the editor that was supposed to be in the newspaper. I even got an email from one of the employees stating that it would be printed but it never was. Is there some kind of conspiracy going on that I don't know about?? I would like to be able to tell a lot of things that goes on at the airport but undoubtedly someone doesn't want me to. I guess my letter regarding the tearing down of signs for Alex Haefele has gone unnoticed also but I hope that the persons who plan to vote for Mr. Haefele have noticed and wondered just who would do such a thing? Makes you wonder, doesn't it? Think about it!

jmcguire's picture

No conspiracy ...

... I removed a post (not by you) that violated our rules against personal attacks. If your comments came as replies to that topic, that's why they are gone as well.

Blog Readers

If it's in your power, will you please post how many readers actually read the blog posts? I am curious as to whether the posters are communicating with more than a dozen regular readers and contributors.

Thankyou for any consideration, Magster47

Meeting at Newkirk Baptist Church on AOD last night

I heard on the radio this morning ,WRHI,that a meeting was held last night on the airport overlay district and about one hundred people were there. Well i was there,one of the more than 100 people standing along both side walls and at the back of the building.There were at least another three hundred sitting. I saw one city councilman there,Gettus and city planning commission Chairman Tom Roper,along with Chad Williams of the planning commission. NO OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER CITY OR COUNTY did i see.

The meeting was very enlightning and raised many questions abot the AOD and a lot of the information being put out by city and county staff. Jim Baker wasn't there and Cary Smith wasn't there,i thought Baker and Buddy Motz were going to all neighborhood meetings. Where were you last night????

In a nut shell,the AIRPORT OVERLAY DISTRICT will do only harm to the city,county,and all the people who live here.

THERE IS ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING ON TUESDAY MAY 6,2008 AT 7:00 PM IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AT CITH HALL,155 JOHNSTON STREET. LETS LET THEM KNOW WHAT FOUR HUNDRED PEOPLE LOOK LIKE AT THAT MEETING.ALSO VISIT THE WEB SITE WWW.NOAOD.COM FOR MORE INFORMATION AND THE TRUTH ABOUT THE AIRPORT OVERLAY DISTRICT. THIS ISN'T ONLY ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEAR THE AIRPORT IT HURTS US ALL.

Airport Overlay District / Expansion

Learn the facts and voice your opinion at the Town Hall Meeting on Tuesday 4/22 at the New Kirk Baptist Church, 175 Museum Rd., Rock Hill

overlay

I wonder if the city and county will have to raise our taxes to pay all the lawyers for defending them after the lawsuits start pouring in. There is such a thing as condemming someones property by changing the zoning thus causing the property owner to lose many thousands of dollars because of the devaluation of the property. I personally already know three who have retained attornies.

The AOD and the longer runway will NOT help York County in any way,shape or form!

Enlighten's picture

City has Attorney on Staff

So we already pay for their lawyer. Frankly, I hope a whole bunch of them sue the city.

City attorneys

I just read that someone stated the City of Rock Hill has a lawyer. They have more than one but I will be willing to bet that an Aviation Attorney Specialist could tear the City's attorneys apart in a courtroom and that is exactly where we are heading with the Airport Expansion and AOD. I know that I will be there with bells on!! Think about it!

Airport/landfill

Remember the City of Rock trying to locate a landfill in WYC. The chickens do come home to roost.

Airport Expansion

March 28, 2008

Dear Editor;

For the life of me, I can’t understand why some respondents want to punish the people who purchased a home near the Airport (Jetport). I’m fairly sure that most purchasers knew of the Airport’s existence and were acceptable of the current air traffic and noise levels. However, a person would have to be on the Planning Board, Airport Commission, City Council, A Professional Realtor, Realty Attorney or extremely astute to know about the Airport’s future expansion and the rezoning of the area into the Airport Overlay District.
The expansion of the Airport, by extending the runway, therefore, making it possible for fully loaded Jet Aircraft to use the Airport night and day 24/7, wasn’t something any homebuyer was able to anticipate. After all, the Government, our City Council allowed homes to be built in the area surrounding the Airport. Most people would think that the Governing body would be about protecting the people of Rock Hill and their interests. The Airport Expansion will affect many more people then just the folks living around the Airport. Jet Planes will be making low-level approaches and take offs that will bother residents from Meadow Lakes to Tega Cay. We’ll be lucky if some malfunctioning Jet Plane doesn’t crash into the Hospital or Winthrop University. The noise and the danger is everyone’s concern.
If the Airport Expansion goes through, the Homeowners in the area can expect the value of their homes to fall by a third. I’m sure that the people throwing stones at the homeowners in the AOD would have a coronary if their home lost a third of it value because the City Council wanted to build or expand a nuisance in their neighborhood. And all for what? So a few executives from Bear Sterns or Enron type corporations can save a few minutes by not landing in Charlotte. Give me a BREAK. If the County or Rock Hill needs a Jetport, let one be built out in the farm lands and zone the surrounding area correctly, as farm land and nothing but farmland. The vegetables don’t suffer hearing loss, stress, anxiety, environmental, quality of life issues and monetary loss from excessive noise and pollution like we do. I only hope that our representatives in Government do the right thing for the citizens of Rock Hill. We shouldn’t expect less.

Magster47

Did you not notice the Airport

I'm sorry that these people don't like the airport being near them but I'm pretty sure that they noticed it when they were buying their homes!
Ultimately it is the councils fault for approving housing developments that close to the airport! They should have been less greedy and realized that this was going to happen.
I also think that we should hold the homeowners accountable though. They knew an airport was near by!
I'm sorry if only one plane flew over while you were looking at your house but it is their responsibility to research their area! When you look for a house you take a lot of things into consideration. What schools would the kids go to? Are they good schools so that resale will be ok? What is around my house? Is there too much commercial areas? Are there other neighborhoods that would bring down my value of my house when I want to sell?
OH YEAH!! I hear there is an airport near by, maybe I should go look at it and talk to them and see how much traffic they usually see????
We always teach our children to take responsibility. Well as adults we should too!

I knew it was there.

I knew the airport was there and I am fine with the way it operates currently toady. It is the changes that this AOD will allow to happen that is the problem. There are laws that prevent anyone from becoming a public nuisance or caues the quaility of life and property to be devauled by another property owner.

Why are you saying that this airport is exempt from these laws? If you moved to a house where you have homes on both side of you and after a period of time these home became a public nuisance's. You would have the legal right to stop these nuisance's. What makes these the property ownes right's that purchased property under one conditon and now that condition may change different than that of the rest of the country's property owners rigths?

Nothing is different and if the airport want to exspand then there are consequences and repercussions that they must face!!! Namely pay for the damages that they will cause!!!

Enlighten's picture

Hate to point out the obvious

Did you not notice the airport when you purchased your home?

My concern is more for the people who did not purchase homes anywhere near the airport that may be impacted by inconsiderate pilots flying low over their homes during approach...

I wish you all luck, hope you have money for a lawyer cause when the City sets its mind to something...well you know the rest of the story.

Inconsiderate?

Inconsiderate Pilots??? What?? They are flying that low b/c they are on an approach pattern to land on the runway!
SHEESH!!!!
Their engines make noise, just like your car engine makes noise or loud stereo systems make noise.
HHmmmm...... I run in to more incosniderate people in cars and people with car stereo's than I do pilots.....Maybe I can get the county to move the road farther away from my house, I'm not sure that I notice them when I was buying my house......

Whatever!!

WHATEVER!!!!!!!!

How many of those car's with the load stereo's do you think on everyday of the year will crash into your home for driving to close?

yea, your right

WHATEVER!!!

Michaelprocton's picture

Umm...

I'm not a doctor or anything, but when was the last time a plane crashed into a house locally? I'm willing to bet a car has been in somebody's dining room more recently than that.

Umm

What about the plane that crashed in the Ridge Point Development? Luckily it didn't hit a house but came very close to being a catastophe.Don't softstroke the issue with a plane vs. car comparison.

Enlighten's picture

Whatever

Whats a matter...you didn't like what I said and YES I have been subject to more than one pilot who flew way to low to suite me. I understand coming in for a landing. I don't understand why you would need to be flying treetop level in an very loud plane to do so.

This whole airport expansion thing is another bait and switch being pulled off by those in "power." I bet you don't live anywhere near it...as a matter of fact I live over two miles away from the airport and still have to put up with one pilot in particular who can shake the whole house with his old plane. I guess I will just start calling the county and reporting this guy for noise violations...after all, we do have a noise ordinance? Right?

Whatever...its not your property values right? Or maybe you want to land your jet here, wouldn't want to inconvenience anyone or stop economic growth...hey, maybe a jet shuttle over to the new museum of Life and the Environment...

I hope the homeowners prevail and the airport remains what it has been for years...a little podunk airstrip.

Really?

Actually I do live near the airport. Actually my house is right under the path for flights approaching to land.
I can read their call letters to you as they fly over.
It doesn't bother me at ALL!
When I was looking at the lot to build a house an airplane flew over on approach for landing and it made me want the lot even more!
I ENJOY the planes! This is my second home near the airport.
The first house I lived in was even better because there use to be two pilots that were regulars in airshows in the area and they would practice their dog fighting and acrobatics over our house! It was GREAT! What a free show!

Our home value didn't suffer because of it and I dont' expect this home to be any different!

Let's face it, the airport is NOT going to be another Charlotte Douglas Airport. Those size planes will never come to the Rock Hill airport. So what is the problem?

Airport

Since you enjoy the planes so much maybe you would like to purchase my home. This way when the jets come in you can stand outside ( with earplugs on ) and wave to the pilots.
Those size planes will never come to Rock Hill !!!! Surely the internet and cell phones would never be what they are today. Give me a break. Get your head out of the sand. you wouldn't want to miss any of those wonderful new jets landing.

Airport Expansion Plans

You do know that the airport runway EXTENSION (not expansion) was approved in 2003, right? A runway "expansion" is not being considered at this time. The current City/County initiative is an Airport Overlay District not an airport expansion.

It is only because of development pressure around the airport that an AOD has become necessary. EVERYONE will benefit by reducing the density of future development around the airport and prohibiting uses that are highly noise sensitive or are considered hazardous should a crash occur.

Airport Expansion Plans

Both the " Expansion" and "Overlay" are joined at the hip.
Get the facts and don't fall for all the "SPIN" the elected officials are giving. Exactly who will benefit? Certainly not the taxpayers who will be footing a good portion of the $38,000,000. cost.

Why not come to the Town Hall meeting on 4/22 ( 7-9 PM ) at the New Kirk Baptist Church, 175 Museum Rd. and learn exactly what the truth is.

Airport Expansion Plans

A runway expansion is a precursor to an Airport Expansion.
If you live within the affected areas your naive to think that any of the proposed changes will not adversely affect you.

Airport Expansion

Dear Sir; An extension of the runway would automatically be considered an expansion of the Airport. Especially for the fact,the number of JETS that would be landing and taking off are estimated to expand to 88,000 per year. Up from possibly 600 per year. That's quite an expansion.

Airport Expansion

The runway extension is nothing new. It was reflected in the 1983 airport layout plan, and adopted in the 1994 and the 2003 airport master plans. It is a 1,000ft extension on an existing runway. And if you compare its to other local airport runways, it is still one of the shortest. Airport growth is projected at about 5% per year, similar to population growth. Where did you get 600 planes per year from???

What the City and County are currently proposing is an Airport Overlay District to put additional restrictions on uses and densities in close proximity to the airport. Is it wise to have large congregations of people in highly accident prone areas? No. Nor should noise sensitive uses be located near an existing airport.

Get your facts straight.

Runway Extension

Speaking about getting facts straight. An expansion of the runway to 6,500' would make it the largest in the area. The largest right now is Lancaster- 6,004'. Surrounding airport runways are as follows: Monroe-5,500'; Chester-5,000'; Gastonia- 3,750'; Jaars Townsend- 3,309'; Westgrove-2,835'; Goose Creek- 2,350'.

As respects the Airport Overlay District, the City and County may want to put restrictions on uses and densities but they would also be causing an unfair financial loss to property values for affected homeowners. An airport expansion would only benefit corporate bigwigs that would be going to Charlotte to do business. What would the people in the surrounding areas of the airport gain besides more planes overhead, more noise, more danger of a catastrophe and more traffic, just to name a few.

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